God Save the Queen! Long Live the Queen!

May the Queen live forever! Alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, Amen! Alleluia, Amen.

O Lord, succor now thy servant Elizabeth. May thine angels carry her unto thine everlasting rest. May she live forever with thee, in peace and tranquility – aye, and in grand adventure, that thrills her heart even as it comforts her, and quiets, and lo, ever more dignifies.

Thanks be to God for Elizabeth II. Grant now O Lord fit successors to her throne. Long and ever may it increase in power, might, justice, and majesty.

May God save Great Britain. May God save the West.

Amen, Amen; Alleluia, Amen.

And, now, of course: God Save the King! Long Live the King! May the King Live Forever! Amen, Amen.

 

6 thoughts on “God Save the Queen! Long Live the Queen!

  1. There’s been a lot of talk here recently about authority. This is a subject of some interest to me, but I have stayed out of it because I don’t see much basis for discussion. I am about as reflexively anti-authoritarian as you folks are pro, and I have no hope of changing your minds about what is basically a character trait.

    But I can’t resist asking a question: the Queen is obviously an authority, but she was also the head of the Church of England, an organization created explicitly for the purpose of escaping the authority of the Roman Church. You can’t really respect both!

    Well, maybe you can, but it illustrates the absurdity and paradox of worshipping Authority as such. Obeying a particular authority, well, yes, that is just a normal part of life, but declaring a fealty to authority in the abstract makes little sense, since authorities are often in conflict with each other.

    So, how do you decide which Authorities are worthy of your respect?

    I at least don’t have this problem; I disrespect them all.

  2. “[S]he was also the head of the Church of England…”
    No, she was Supreme Governor of the Church of England, meaning only that she was “over all persons and in all causes throughout her dominions, supreme.
    In other words, no one was exempt from her authority and she was, through her courts (including the High Court of Parliament), the final arbiter of all disputes.
    Every sovereign independent state makes the same claim

  3. “But I can’t resist asking a question: the Queen is obviously an authority, but she was also the head of the Church of England, an organization created explicitly for the purpose of escaping the authority of the Roman Church. You can’t really respect both! ”

    I have also refrained myself from discussing on the recent Orthosphere’s threads about “Authority” because in these key issues, precision, clarity, and detail are key to properly expose the arguments one may have (either in favor or against). As I lack many of these traits, I thought I would cause more harm than good. However, I cannot resist replying to this.

    I must agree with a.morphous on this quote, and I think he just hit the nail in the head.

    I would answer his question by saying that I, myself, subject my respect to Authorities to:
    1) the Triune God and his commandments
    2) natural and supernatural prudence

    What I try to do is first follow the Moral Law (of which the Natural Law is an echo) of God, then assess each individual case using prudence, then ask God for supernatural prudence, and then act accordingly. I know that if a Statesman stands up and says “abortion is a universal right, so say I, the Primer Minister/President of [insert country]”, my course of action should be:
    a) pray for his conversion
    b) ignore his words and act against them in every possible situation I may face
    c) address him in a way that is charitable
    d) respect the Office (which is the position he holds)

    If, on the contrary, he says “abortion is an abominable crime, so say I, the Primer Minister/President of [insert country]”, my course of action should be:
    a) respect this words, simply because they echo the moral law of God
    b) make the effort to instruct those who disagree with this statement while addressing them with charity
    c) be vigilant on his decisions and mandates to see when he is stepping out of the line

    Authority does not override my brain, after all there was only One Immaculate Conception who was sinless. And the number of men who have not committed a single sin throughout history may be counted with one hand. All the rest of us are sinners and lovers of evil (in one way or the other) so we are to keep this in mind before acting and obeying.

    Jeremiah 17:5 states “Cursed is the man who trusts in man”. I would say that this passage indicates that placing the trust we should have in God on a human person is a recipe for disaster. There is a trust that is only deserved by God: blind trust. For all the rest of creatures, we are called to be constantly vigilant and prudent. St. John said “Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world”. Many false prophets have held positions of authority (for example, prophet Muh-amm-ad), the Antichrist will be a false prophet and will have a position of authority too.

    Blind obedience is due only to God. To all the rest, prudence and charity.

    • “[T]he Triune God and his commandments”

      Let every soul be subject to the higher authorities, for there is no authority except from God, and the authorities existing are appointed by God, so that he who is setting himself against the authority, has resisted against God’s ordinance; and those resisting, shall receive judgment to themselves . (Rom 13: 1-2)

      Remind them to be subject to principalities and authorities, to obey rule… (Tit 3: 1)

      Be subject, then, to every human creation, because of the Lord, whether to a king, as the highest, whether to governors, as to those sent through him… (1 Pet 2: 13-14)

      • All is nice on paper, until a politician steals a presidential election.

        Happened on Argentina, Spain, and the US.

        When a Statesman says “abortion is a universal right”, disobedience is a duty. How and when is a matter defined through the exercise of prudence.

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